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ER 12.04 Blame It On The Rain
Lubasha Visnjic: Режиссер ПОЛ МАККРЕЙН 12.04 Blame It On The Rain -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by Dee Deee at ERForums: "Guest lead is a woman who's been in a coma for six years in a nursing home, and miraculously awakens. They're looking for a name actress for this role. A woman suffering from post-partum depression has a car accident with her baby, and admits to Neela that it was deliberate, but later denies it when her husband arrives. A sex therapist's client has a heart attack. Possible new recurring character, a toxicology attending specializing in snakes. (No race, specific age, or attractiveness level is specified, so I doubt he's anyone's love interest.) Several fairly minor car accident victims. Abby's involved in a screaming match with one SUV driver who nearly hits her. *************************************************************** 1. Женщина ,проведшея в коме 6 лет, просыпается. Продюсеры ищут актрису для этой роли. Она будет главной в этой серии. 2. Женщина страдающей пост-депрессией , попадает в автом.аварию с ребенком и признается Ниле, что сделала это специально, но после прихода мужа все отрицает. 3. У пациента сексолога сердечный приступ. 4. Возможно новый старший врач (но не в основном кастинге) в области токсикологии, специализирующийся на змеях. 5. Эбби спорит с водителем машины, которая папала (машина) в небольшую аварию наряду с другими машинами. Водитель чуть ли не бьет ее.
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Starley: Этот лось - Алекс?!
Lubasha Visnjic: Starley нет.
Starley: слава Богу!
Lubasha Visnjic:
Starley: Как он все-таки красив!
Машуля: Starley пишет: цитатаКак он все-таки красив! Ромик-то? Целиком и полностью с тобой согласна!
Starley: Машуля пишет: цитатаРомик-то? ЛУКОЧКА!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lubasha Visnjic: промо скачать http://www.parminderonline.com/index2.html
Starley: А что это Керри такая мокрая? Дождик, да? А как Сэм на Луку смотрит.....Думать надо было раньше!
Lubasha Visnjic: Starley пишет: цитатаЭтот лось - Алекс?! этот лось из Деграсси. Но я не помню кого он там играл.
Lubasha Visnjic: Observateur Member (10/13/05 10:37 pm) You are being generous calling it ridiculous. Hands up, it's the worst moment of this season so far, and one of ER worst. I don't know if LO was pissed or what, but Dubenko was creepier and weirder than usual. Die, Gemill, die. (автор сценария) ETA: Nobody is going to convince me that LO (Леладн Орсер - Дыбенко) and MT were happy with this. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doc Sharon Member (10/13/05 10:52 pm) If I was LO, I would've been pissed, he's a dam* good actor, they finally give him a scrap of a storyline and it's total BS. And, while there are 5 minutes left, I think it's safe to say that this eppy was a disappointment. I liked Sam using her feistiness to make her point with Eve. Neela's storyline was not engaging at all mainly because the actress playing the mother was not that good and because the case seems like something we've seen on this show a dozen times before. Ray's 'plot' was a big ho-hum. And we have a preview for an 'All New ER' next week, so it's not a rerun. And it was all about JL's debut. ------------------------- mackiaveli Member (10/13/05 11:04 pm) Sam & Eve shared the same hairstyle tonight. Sam’s hair is looking so much better. I still can’t get used to Dubenko’s first name being Lucien. Its good that they caught his prostate cancer early . I guess that memorial service in episode 10 is not for Dubenko after all. Dubenko is such a geek who is inept at social interactions. I guess that is why he was so pathetic enough to ask Abby who is a co-worker to have sex with him because of his prostate cancer treatments. It was very inappropriate. But I’m guessing the writers thought this was humorous & even more humorous to tie it in with the professional call girl. I found it all extremely awkward as it was supposed to be. I did laugh when Abby asked him if he wanted to hop on and help with the incoming trauma. I guess tonight was just to set up Luka’s coma patient plot for future episodes. I assume Ray was in the episode to add humor. It was nice to see Kerry working back in the ER. I have never been a fan, but her presence is needed in the ER. I’m still liking Eve. This episode was not as sharp or fast paced as the previous two this season. I found it slow moving. Still it was miles better than the dullsville that was the season premiere. I don’t think Paul McCrane directs with enough focus and energy. But I thought the episode was decent. Next week from the preview looks at the very least interesting and different. Look forward to it.
Lubasha Visnjic: Freyalise Member (10/13/05 11:12 pm) I personally don't think Dubenko came off as creepy, but the scene was so horrible that other descriptive words just aren't coming to mind. Thank God for the two laughs Morris gave me, otherwise I'd be seriously depressed. Way to go with the character assassination, people. ------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iczer eh Administrator (10/13/05 11:24 pm) I missed the beginning of the episode and got in just in time to see the Dubenko-Abby scene. I... really can't remember anything after that apart from me groaning while my brother howled and kept asking me why I still watch a show that has that effect on me It's been an hour and I still can't believe I actually watched it happen. Stuff like this is why I'm having a hard time sharing the optimism about the rest of the season. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CodySNLER Member (10/14/05 12:37 am) After reading the descriptive spoilers, for some reason I expected the teaser with Abby & the angry driver to be longer, and definitely thought the Jerry getting struck by lightning bit would be bigger than it actually was. They never really went into the 6 year - coma girl or Ray's story either. Kind of a fly-by episode, but it was enjoyable. I think I definitely enjoy the episodes Laura Innes directs better than Paul McCrane's. I'd say McCrane's "The Student" from Season 10 was great, however. Laura has him beat though.
Lubasha Visnjic: YeahSure Member (10/14/05 9:44 am) Dubenko and Abby were cringe worthy tonight. Abby was too amused by everything, I think. As awkward as Dubenko was, you gotta feel for the guy. And it seemed Abby was about to crack up the entire time. Ew. It was awful. What was the point of Ray's storyline? God, I hate him. What was the point of Kerry and Luka disagreeing about the infant treatment? It went nowhere... Also cringe worthy: Luka and his call girls comment. Um, isn't this the guy who was seeking comfort sex with hookers while wallowing in a deep depression? Now it's funny to him? Abby throwing the coffee ... extreme overreaction. More cringes from me. Some good: Sam is being redeemed and she's much more pleasant this way. It was nice to see Luka and Sam working so well together. Eve is amusing and KJ is doing a decent job. Morris falling! HAHAHA! Oh man, SG is just a funny actor. ------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lynnskies Member (10/14/05 10:44 am) I have to agree with everyone about the Dubenko/Abby scene. It was horrible- I was cringing the entire time. I mean what kind of professional asks someone (a colleague) to sleep with him like it's no big deal? The writers have sunk to a new low IMO! Other than that, I thought the episode was good, but not as good as the previous two. I laughed like crazy when Morris fell and I like seeing the rest of the cast (except Ray- I hate Ray, but that is beside the point!)- seemed more ensemble to me.
Lubasha Visnjic: Madelien00 Member (10/15/05 7:07 am) First things first: - Jerry is back! I thought that Abraham quit, but apparently he didn't (zigzagpattern rules.) - I really like Scott & Laura, and Kristin & Goran together - Morris fall was funny - Ray's storyline was not really... well, it was not really interesting. - And then the rain, so typically ER: Drama is rain, rain is drama. - Kerry drowned in the rain gave me this huge season flashback (hair, blouse, rain), but she was such a flat character :S - I like Neela in action, actually doing something. But Neela's hair went from totally drowned to almost dry in no time. That wasn’t right. - And than the HUGE HUGE problem of this episode: Abby and Dubenko. Whyyyyyyy whyyyy whyy? Never been so frustrated during ER. Abby's 'duh' was nice, but still, all of a sudden she called him Lucien? Weird. - Maura made some great faces and I love the 'wacky' thing. Yeah, I still like Abby. Lot of Abby, but she rocked. (Besides Dubenko) - that ‘therapist’ reminded me of the season 9 women who came with the old guy with his viagra. Remember? - Abby and Luka were nice, until Dubenko interrupted them and SUDDENLY decided to have coffee with Abby. (again, why why why) - Neela's patient storyline was good, but slow, too slow. (And getting a little old, those patients with those stories) It wasn't getting anywhere. The scene lasted too long. - Well, and there the Dubenko/Abby conversation started. Nice to see that Abby had no idea how to react, which was nice in the beginning, until Dubenko really started to get creepy. He wasn't funny weird anymore :S. It was only about sex, and Abby just kept talking around it. Then Dubenko got REALLY FREAKY. O my god. And Abby's reaction! I mean FLATTERED?! O come on. Can't believe that she said that. 'Nothing personal.' Please, let it be something personal for God’s sake... Oh, pure frustration. The stupid thing is, that Maura and Leland were acting great together, but the conversation just... it' was soooo wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Leland really acted it like 'I think this is ridiculous but I'll do it anyway,’ and I think that Maura thought it was quite funny to do. They both knew that it was wrong. - Frank's 'please hold, please hold,' was so old... - The kids of that father (sorry, didn't remember any names) were great actors. Jason-guy was very, very good. - I like Inez, it's good that some nurses get screentime.But still not brilliant. Not ER brilliant. - And then again Neela storyline. Not saying anything. - The tension between Sam and Kovac was not very strong, it was supposed to be strong, but it wasn't. Just like the whole episode. - Scene with Sam, Inez and Eve woke me up when Sam started to yell. I was like: ‘O... wake up, I’m watching ER...’ - Jerry's little storyline was very nice, but I wish that we would have been able to see it! But no, characters like Jerry aren't allowed to have screentime anymore... - And then, at the end. Neela and Judy. Again. Neela really annoyed me at the end. She wasn’t getting anywhere, and I totally understood why Judy wanted to get away from her. The episode was in one word: weird. There were so many things going on, but none of them was actually interesting, and they should have been. Then there were some funny, nice moments in between. (Jerry, Morris who fell, Abby in the rain, Inez) And we never saw Abby talking with Sam... or Pratt, (he had like no screentime) In the older seasons, all the doctors and nurses communicated, in season 12 everyone is doing it for themselves, the harmony of one cast group is gone. It wasn't really an episode on it's self, hard to explain. I didn’t feel like something actually happened. And besides Abby and Dubenko, nothing ‘personal’ happened. The ending: Neela standing in the rain, not able to keep Judy in the hospital. Very unexpected that it ended there, although 45 minutes had passed, I didn’t really believe that this would be the end of the episode. It was very all of a sudden, like: Okay, let's stop here, we filled 45 minutes, see you next week. (Rate: 6.5)
Lubasha Visnjic: cdessler Oct 14 2005, 03:01 AM TELL ME THEY DIDN'T GO THERE WITH DUBENKO. I think I just died inside. Damn, he was beautiful, but oh Jesus. -------------------- angstyandjaded Oct 14 2005, 03:55 AM in the mean time it was great to see sean from degrassi, more specifically, sean trying to beat up people and being meloncholy even when not on degrassi! cause ya know, he left degrassi cause he was the same way. alright episode. can't believe dubenko asked abby for sex *is disturbed* can't wait 'till next weeks episode! --------------- GreenJello125 Oct 14 2005, 12:36 PM You know, I didn't think it was that bad of an episode, except for the Dubby conversation and Jerry at the very end. Besides, the gorgeous Laura Innes made QUITE a few appearances on screen; it was glorious! ---------------------- ladylightning20 Oct 14 2005, 12:50 PM Ok...this episode wins an Official Lady Lightning WTF? Award. When I was watching happen, I had the same thought as most of you: OH...NO...THEY...DIDN'T! (секс Эбби с Дыбенко) It's Zabel and Gemmil, so you knew, or at least suspected, that something like the coffee scene was coming...but...when it happened, it was like a watching a car crash in slow motion. The only saving grace as far as I'm concerned, was how incredibly delicious Leland looked in that scene. (Oh man, the wet hair was HOT) (OK, how many of us were sitting there at that moment wishing that we were the ones getting that proposition instead of Abby? )(I know that I, for one, wouldn't have said no...) I think, after this episode, whenever they mention Dubenko's cancer, I'm going to cringe out of instinct because I'll suspect a repeat of something like that scene... (BTW, does anyone happen to have a screencap of Dubenko in the rain that I could use to make an avatar?)
Lubasha Visnjic: KzamInUSA Oct 14 2005, 01:24 PM I thought that it was a balanced episode. With that being said, I agree with others who have posted, that nothing could capture the horror of the Abby-Dubenko coffee scene. Nothing. In all fairness to the writers and producers, I think that they were going for a Ben Stiller-Jennifer Anniston like feel for that scene. And, if I think about Ben Stiller delivering Orser’s lines, then I could see where that scene could have been funny. However, I don’t think that Leland Orser is a Ben Stiller style actor, rather I think that he is a good dramatic character actor. So instead of last night’s scene about erectile dysfunction and penile injections coming off as Ben Stiller-awkward, yet charming and funny, I thought that it came off as awkward, painful/unbelievable (why would he tell these things to a woman who has barely been civil to him in the past), and feeling about 60 seconds too long. With the exception of those minutes and the omnipresent storyline that there is ‘something’ about Abby that makes most men and apparently women want to jump into bed with her, I think that the episode was decent but a little bland. I think that it could have been an exciting episode - it had several storylines going at once and almost all of the characters had meaningful lines/appearances – but I thought that it lost energy in some places. We saw Frank, Jerry, and even Haleh. Luka and Neela had strong storylines. Ray had a nice moment in the poison control center. Eve made her appearance, and Sam had good lines. Although, I could have done without Sam’s high horse speech to Eve. After all, it was just last week that we saw Sam and Luka putting a patient’s life in danger – yet again – because of their relationship issues. ----------- IluvRay Posted: Oct 13 2005, 10:06 PM So I really liked this eppisode. I thought it was more like the old ones. It was really funny but still had some drama mixed in. Had a lot to do with the hospital. I didn't think the husband of the post-partum lady was a very good actor so that kinda brought it down for me but he got better as the eppisode went on. Over all really good. And when Dubenko was talking to Abby about sleeping with him....OMG I could not stop laughing!! Especially when she was like "Hey do you wanna hop on? I mean are you coming? I mean..." HAHAHAHA I thought that was hilarious. I'm sure some people are gonna find it offensive and say that ER has resorted to childish crude humor but I thought it was really funny. And the whole Jerry getting struck by lightning that was really funny...I don't know if its possible to be struck by lightning and just keep walking or w/e but it was still funny.
Lubasha Visnjic: shopAholic Posted: Oct 13 2005, 10:17 PM I didn't watch all of it, so this is just my opinion of what I saw - BORING! Oh man, the parts I saw were painful to sit through. That baby crying really pissed me off, just cause the kids mouth wasn't even open for parts of it, but the stupid kid was still screaming it's head off. The Dubenko/Abby thing, it's like the ER producers are almost trying to copy Grey's Anatomy, cause the few few minutes of episodes I've seen, all it's about is sex. I can't really be bothered with ER anymore, honestly I could care less about this season, which is really sad, because it could be SO good. But it probably won't be. ------------------- ashmo Posted: Oct 13 2005, 10:38 PM I think so far in this Season that was probably the worst. I liked it but I liked the others better. There were many things I liked. Sam- she was off the chains tonight. When they introduced her she was like this kickass nurse with a really feisty personality and we lost that when Samka began. I was hoping it would bring this back at out her and they did . I liked how she and Luka worked together like friends, its like there's no tension just friendship reminds me of Luka and Abby, just a strong friendship. Debenko- that was ridiculous I mean there's no way in hell he actually thought she'd go for that. I was laughing also when she said the hoping on thing, a wierd scene. I'm guessing that Debenko's cancer is not really going to be serious. Ray- didn't really care Eve- I have no idea what to think about her she's seems only to care about her department, not what she does to others, not about her own feelings being hurt, I have to see more of her Neela- I thought she had a great storyline tonight. Parminder did great as always. I didn't think the woman she worked on was very good at all. Luka- again like how he's kind of getting over Sam and maintaining their friendship . I can't wait to see more of him and Blaire storyline i thought that was pretty good. Abby- I don't really know what to say. I thought her scene with Debenko was funny. I thought her and the therapy lady were interesting, I didn't even think the lady was listening to Abby when explaining the man's treatment and then she spit all that out, I laughed too hard. I find it interesting that Abby's like the only person who corrects Luka when talking, I liked that scene.The coffee scene with the truck was wierd, did it seem like it was a completely differnet person talking when calling him an a**hole. Really low voice . Jerry- I wonder how many times he's been hit by lightning It was okay I think they dropped alot from the past episode.
Lubasha Visnjic: Calla Queen Posted: Oct 13 2005, 10:57 PM GOOD EPI!! Was Kerry being a little too CYA or was she feeling "rusty" after all this time being a full time administrator? She did look more concerned than usual in between traumas when she didn't think anyone else was looking. I could be wrong,.....maybe she was just more concerned because it was a baby & she could relate to the parents' anxiety? >>But she certainly didn't give a damn about Jerry & his lightning phobia! It wasn't until she got those melted coins as change that she finally acknowledged what everyone else knew in the ER! Just a bit out of touch again! And a bit too quick to disregard her collegues & staff's input again! Poor Jerry....how many times can one person get hit by lightning & survive without residual neurological damage? Dubenko was sad, and desparate, as anyone who gets the news that your body has 'turned on' you with a diagnosis of Cancer, especially when it's a recurrance. Being a surgeon himself, he was more than aware of the potential problems, & the viscious side effects of chemo/radiation and surgery complications. It does make you more willing to take a risk, "make a wish" come true......when you know options are limited. He's always had a "thing" for Abby & she was being compassionate & empathetic, so why not ask? He did truely understand, although he was dissappointed. Abby did a nice thing asking Shawna, the sexual therapist to "pinch hit" for her (it is Baseball playoffs/World Series time right?)recognizing how emotionally needy he would become. No matter how pitiful Dubenko's situation was, saying 'yes' was really more than Abby could have handled. She's had enough dealings with needy, unstable Bipolars' mood swings to last several lifetimes. Eve was being ultra-protective of the RNs with Luka. ...like he was abusing them or something! Jumping in every chance she got......berating the newer nurses, just getting oriented to the facility & staff,,,,,,,, She's going to wear herself out trying to do that! And seeing Sam working with Luka so well, knowing what he needed before he even asked for it,...how could you not change her shifts? Sam may have her flaws, as we all do, but her nursing expertise is NOT one of them. She might push things at times, & project her own agenda onto the patients occaisionally, but she knows her stuff! Luka was assertive and only borderline aggressive with Eve,....and very professional with Sam & the other RNs. He did a nice job with all his trauma cases, but sort of 'chicken-ed out' when it came to informing her very much about her condition & the other facts surrounding it. But then, perhaps this would be something you'd want to have a psych consult about..... News like that,...dead Mom, AWOL fiance, 6 yr Coma.....not easily taken in or accepted. Can't really blame him. Speaking of psych consults......Neela, sometimes you just have to give up! That whole family was in denial & there's nothing you can do but pray. That's what AMA forms are for!! Post partum depression is a tough one to see clearly because as the hubby said....."we've got a 3 month old baby.....when she can't sleep, NO ONE DOES!" All that 24/ 7 lack of sleep, eating irregularly, lack of any sort of schedule & the constant attention that any baby requires, especially a "cholicky" one.....it's enough to make anyone nuts, without the added physiologic effects of out of balance hormones. Women used to die from this disease in it's most severe form....became useless Zombies, prone to every minor disease due to decreased immune response. There's a surreal realization that your life is NOT your own in any way, shape or form! God love them, but babies are ALOT of work! And the stress levels on new Moms & Dads is tremendous! I've rambled on long enough (or far too long as I'm sure Dr. Romano thinks! ) Looking forward to seeing how John Leguizamo will shake up the staff next week! Good night
Lubasha Visnjic: Tony Posted: Oct 13 2005, 11:03 PM I enjoyed this episode. It was the best one so far this season in my opinion. I got the feeling that Eve doesn't know as much about nursing as she wants us to believe she does. It looked like she kept switching rooms because she was unable to handle the procedures needed. Did anybody else get this feeling?
Lubasha Visnjic: guardiantales Posted: Oct 14 2005, 05:18 AM Well, overall I liked the episode.. i think it's funny that I was so not happy about Sam basically dumping Luka when it was happening, and I've already progressed to not being able to care less if they get back together. I did like it when Sam told off that goofy looking Eve...what IS the story with this character? I'm not liking her at all, and am uncertain just what it is she's supposed to be doing there.. Dubenko and Abby scenes... funny. "Are you coming?" The woman waking from the coma after 6 years or 9 years or whatever... I found this completely UNBELIEVABLE. The only good thing about that storyline is Luka. I felt sorry for Jerry getting hit by lightning. And Neela... I really like her, but man, give it a rest, woman! Overall.. I hope next week is better... -------------------- Dr. Romano Posted: Oct 14 2005, 09:18 AM The end of the Dubenko/Abby scene was more like Scrubs than ER. Anyway, the guy's not the smartest. I mean, if you want to have sex with someone, creeping them out by telling them every detail about your penis might not be the best idea. ---------------------- pebbles Posted: Oct 14 2005, 01:29 PM I'm getting tired of the storylines where one of the doctors decides that a patient needs "help", often psychiatric, and then proceeds to try and IMPOSE it on them. I think it's not helpful to the show or its viewers to show a power struggle between a care provider and patient/family as a routine aspect of care. A doctor trailing after a patient as they leave, screaming "BUT YOU NEED HELP!" is not good drama, in my books. They've overdone it, in too many episodes. Eve - I don't like the way she talks to people, including "her" staff (the nurses), but I like that they've added a nurse character who displays her knowledge about emercency care. Not just wearing tight tops and/or doing what the doctor says. I dunno about whether she's a good nurse on the job, but she's brought the show back up a notch, just with focusing on the skill levels. Hearing that this character was being added is the only reason I watched this season at all. I find the doctors are being shown as very judgemental these days. There was always that aspect to the writing, but it's all over the place now. There is no balancing veiwpoint of any kind, nobody reminding the "residents" that you have to let patients live their own lives as they choose, etc. I'm reminded of an episode in season 2: Carter refers to a patient as a SHPOS, and Dr Lewis says "what did you say?".... Carter replies, "Oh, it means Sub-Human Piece of-", Lewis says, "I know what it means, Carter. You know, we used to worry about you - we worried that you cared too much. We don't worry about that so much any more." In this season of ER, and this cast, I can't picture anyone correcting a resident who talked about a patient that way. Ray - okay, we get the point, he's a lousy communicator and too flippant. I think we got that point a few dozen eoisodes ago. Now would the writers like to DO something with that - like maybe show him learning to do it better, etc? And a wasted opportunity to show a "different" medical world of toxicology, imo.
Lubasha Visnjic: serena Posted: Oct 14 2005, 02:53 PM this was a pretty good episode. i was laughing so loud when kerry almost fell and morris caught her and when abby threw the coffee at the guy. the post partum mother was a bit boring but parminder acted really well. ------------ erfreak07 Posted: Oct 14 2005, 03:09 PM I thought it was a pretty good episode. Seems like there is more action and a lot more humor. I've noticed that when ER started there was a lot of humor then it started to die and they seem to have really picked it back up this season and i really like it! It was nice to see Kerry get some more scenes and stuff... has anyone else noticed that Abby always ends up having to deal with jerks? and calling people names? the chick on the train and then the dude with the truck... she just must have some bad luck! --------------------------- waves39 Posted: Oct 14 2005, 03:57 PM Months after his selection, Morris is still touting his Chief Resident title. At least he learned after this week not to mess with someone a foot taller, that possesses a lethal middle finger. That was the only thing Eve did that I liked. She's way too determined to keep Sam and Luka working separate shifts. She should have other, better things to worry about as Nurse Manager. Everything that Dubenko did this episode was very true to character. From admiring the ornate fencing stuck in a patient, to going to Abby and asking straight up if she would have sex with him. (After going into extreme detail of course.) Kerry Weaver hasn't been in a major plotline since her mother came to town. It's difficult to say why TPTB would want to give her minimal screen time up to this point after watching last night's episode. We got to hear about Henry for the first time in ages, (King Funshine!) and it's obvious that she's thinking about him in the trauma. It's been a very long time since we've seen Kerry's compassion in a good trauma. Neela's come a long way. It wasn't too long ago that she was in dead last among the interns in patient satisfaction scores. She tried her hardest to get her patient to stay, but she learned, and will continue to learn time and time again that some people just dont want to be helped. Next Week: ER's 250th episode. Enter John Leguizamo. -Has anyone else noticed in the opening credits that they replaced the scene with Carter hunched over in the Pilot episode with one of Neela cowering in the drug lockup? -Eve has to be one of the few people that've come around to rival Luka in height -Neela and the paramedic ride-alongs...this should be interesting -Ray should stay in toxicology. -Things have settled down a bit between Luka and Eva. They've moved past the kindergarten bickering of last eppy. -Look out! Flying chart! -So, how many times has Jerry been struck by lightning? Quotables Eve: Inez, walk with me. Inez: Do I have to? Morris: Glad to have you back in the trenches with us, Boss. Weaver: yeah, that makes one of us. I dont know what I'm going to tell my husband Neela: Need a new car? Look of the week runner up: Jerry, praying at the desk Line of the week runner up: Eve: Everyone signed off on it except Psych, crazy bastards. THE LOOK OF THE WEEK: Neela standing in the middle of the street in the downpour THE LINE OF THE WEEK: Dubenko's whole cancer speech.
Lubasha Visnjic: CallingDoctor Posted: Oct 14 2005, 04:34 PM So can we say Kerry is back? Good episode, Season 12 has yet to let my hopes down. ------------- NeelaFan Posted: Oct 14 2005, 04:57 PM I thought it was a good episode as well. They all have been good since the premiere which was IMO so so. Season 12 so far has been reminding of the early show with the humor and such, which is good. Hoping they will continue to be good and we'll get to see what John Leguizamo will bring to the formula next week. ------------ Doctor_Crowe 10/13/2005 8:52pm This was a great episode. This season reminds me a lot of the early seasons. Jerry's scene's were hilarious. poor guy. Lots of Weaver in this episode. That was good to see. I like how Sam and Luka were able to work together and I liked how Sam stood up to Eve. Sam's advice to Inez was good. Looks like Sam is starting to become a mentor. And it looks like there is more focus on the nurses again. That's good to see. I hope they continue the story about the woman in the comma. I wonder if the breast cancer woman from the last episode will be back. I'm hoping we get to see more of her. Was it just me or did we hear Dubenko's first name?
Lubasha Visnjic: DanLC03 Posts: 344 24. Re: Episode Discussion for 12.4 (Blame it on ... | 10/13/2005 9:34pm I loved this episode, best in a long time, probably the best since "Refusal of Care." I loved all of the surprise endings. ---------------- cwbybri Posts: 584 30. Re: Episode Discussion for 12.4 (Blame it on ... | 10/13/2005 11:09pm Thank goodness that it was Luka treating the coma patient, and not Morris. I can only imagine what kind of insensitive comment he would have made to that poor woman. It was cool that Luka and Sam worked great together like they did. But at first, it looked like Eve didn't even notice. She excused Sam from the room. And Sam had to make her speech before Eve said anything. It seems like Eve was punishing Sam or something for having a relationship with a doctor. I think we're going to see the mother with the baby again. Neela did everything she could short of restraints to get her help. Looks like she needed it. I see a good friendship developing with "Lucien" and Abby. All though, she was looking for a hole to crawl into during their conversation. And that was before he brought up the "scientific" thing. I can't see how that line would ever work??? Quote of the night: Abby's slip up with the GSW rolling in. "Would you like to hop on?" The coma patient was bizzare. What do you tell someone in her position. Again, thank goodness it was Luka and not Morris. Oh, and Morris fell down and went boom again. I think that's all he's good for. He falls down, we all laugh. -----------------
Lubasha Visnjic: XxTVfreakxX Posts: 219 46. Re: Episode Discussion for 12.4 (Blame it on ... | 10/14/2005 6:59pm I Loved this eppisoide! There was so much going on at all times. I really liked the Neela's patient storyline. I still say she depressed. I also thought alot more highly of Eve She is slowing staring to grow on me might take a few more, but slowly. I liked the small comedy too. Jerry with the lighting and Morris falling. Also, Abby throwing coffe at that guy tring to save Morris's Bear Claw and then that guy showing up in the ER. I loved it all. I hope they keep going the way there are during the whole season. Better and better each eppi. Wow Dubanko's first name? A total surprise! I didnt think it was going to be something plain like John but Lusien (or howeve you spell it) was a shocker! ------------------------------- speddoc 10/15/2005 8:37pm Preface: I think R. Scott Gemmill is a weak writer, although a decent storyteller. He wrote both this one and Nobody's Baby and neither had as much energy as did the last episode or the opener, despite good stories. Which is not to say it wasn't a good episode. I just wanted to dial a few folks up a notch. Neela: Front and center, at last. So why was she so dull? She's got a good bedside manner, and certainly cared about her patient, but was as bland as can be. I can't make up my mind whether it was Neela being Neela, or PN just didn't get it right. It was an interesting story, but it never developed the urgency I would have expected. Abby: OK, she lost points today. Throwing hot coffee is both immature, and, given the driver needed treatment, assault. She's got to get the trigger reset on her impulses. The rest of the episode she was decent enough in a fairly tacky story. Best part was the scene with Luka (if it floats, flies...) I wonder if we'll see her cancer lady again next week. Dubenko: Lucien! It works for me. I liked his ham-handed, scientific approach to seduction with Abby. Classic Dubenko! I do love that character. I'm not sure whether that relationship is at an end, or just on hold for the time being. Pratt/Morris: Pratt was AWOL. What's up with that? And Morris was Morris. I did think his pratt-fall was very well done, however. Jerry/Frank: Good to have you back, big guy! The little story with the lightening was fun. Frank, is Frank again, I see. He got a bit too touchy-feelie at one point for me. I like the old acerbic Frank. Sam: You go girl! I loved the way she stood up to Eve and defended Inez. I do believe we saw the beginnings of the all-new and improved Sam. It's clear she's taken an interest in Inez, and I certainly saw a bit of leadership and mentorship coming out. Good on her. I'm also glad they've got her to the point she can work with Luka and he with her. Loved the scene where she stepped in and they worked smoothly as glass. She looked like a real pro. That's the Sam I thought we'd see after that great start in S10. I'm glad they're going to invest in this character. Eve: She was far less the beyotch from the firey place this time around, and that made her more likeable. She even tried to work with Luka constructively; I hope he took on board the little bit of problem-solving they did. I still see a lot of controlling behavior on her part, and she missed a prime opportunity to teach Inez by sending her out of Luka's trauma. There's more there than meets the eye, I'm convinced. I just can't decide what, although I have the germ of a theory I'm not sharing yet. Kerry: Welcome back! Gad, I've missed her. You sure got a feel for how distant from the ER she's become up in her office. I thought her scene with Luka during the baby trauma was very telling: she taking the safe, conservative approach versus Luka's willingness to trust his eyes and insticts. She interpreted what I saw as his attempt to rally her skills as insinuating she was rusty, and I'm not at all sure that's what he intended judging by his reaction. But she did strike a nice, old-fashioned balance between caring Kerry and smug Kerry in their discussion of the baby's x-ray.
Lubasha Visnjic: Luka: Well he had quieter day after last week. They put a period on the situation with Sam with a minimum of fuss. This was long enough after last week's episode that the cut over his eyebrow had healed so they had time to get past the rough spots, and can even talk professionally now. On to the next phase of his life. He's still having trouble with Eve, although she seems to be trying to be less adversarial, so that should begin to improve. Otherwise, they're still laying out his issues for the future: he's got a problem being seen as an authority figure and it's going to take work. That will be interesting. The scene with Kerry was fascinating. There was a lot going on, and I think at least part of what we saw was Luka showing the first signs of being a bit protective of his (?) ER. Given his protective instincts in other contexts, it certainly makes sense he'd feel that way. Interesting story with Blaire brewing. We'll see her next week. What will he decide to tell her? And a six-year coma? Gee, another metaphor, ya think? And that preview! Hot dawg!! I wonder who wrote next week's. My money is on David Zabel or John Welles. I must say, David Zabel and Co. continue to turn old story development and writing mistakes to their advantage by building them into the characters. Line of the week: "We have a saying in Croatia. Ako plovi, leti... If it floats, flies or... " (Fornicates?) "Rent it!" At the end, Luka made a noise. I had to run my DVD back and forth several times before I recognized what it was. He GIGGLED. What is the world coming to?
Lubasha Visnjic: DrGreene422 Posts: 742 74. Re: Episode Discussion for 12.4 (Blame it on ... | 10/15/2005 10:49pm My apalogies, Speddoc, I wandered into the wrong episode thread, so I'll repost my opinion on this week's (10/13) episode here: All in all, a pretty good episode, directed by ER's very own Paul McCrane. I'm glad that the Season Premiere was not an omen of things to come. Every episode since has been great, so as long as ER keeps it on par with the last few episodes, this season will be great. I'm starting to like Kristen Johnson's character. She reminds me of a female Romano, and I'm looking foward to watching her shake up the ER even more. Although I'll never really like Morris, I am starting to warm up to him as ER's new comedy relief. I don't think it was a wise decision to add him to the regular cast, I'd much rather see him show up every once in awhile, do something asenine, fall down or get yelled at, and then crawl back in the hole from whence he came. I am really glad to finally see Kerry Weaver become a character again. I was really getting tired of the "recurring" Dr. Weaver, so I'm really happy that she's finally stepping up to the plate again after the last 2 years. Although Luka has proven over the years that he is indeed worthy of the leading spot, I'm not really seeing him show it. It doesn't seem like he really wants it. If he and Sam are finished, then fine, let that be the end of it, but take it off of the ventilator and stop dragging it out. This whole Sam/Luka breakup is interfering with his ability to be any kind of effective leader. I feel bad for Dr. Dubenko. I was starting to like his quirkiness, and now that is pretty much gone. I didn't like his little, shall we say, "proposal" to Abby this week. Even if his situation is understandable, you simply don't back somebody into a corner and put them on the spot like that. I can definitely sympathize with his situation, but still. Abby is getting better and better, and I think even Speddoc would have to agree that she's becoming an even greater asset to the ER. I really hope they are paving the way for her to get back together with Luka. I always loved them as a couple, and they seemed to have been dropping hints on the show that it's going to happen in the near future. I'm all for it. They are the two leading cast members, and the show needs to have a strong couple of the Mark/Elizabeth caliber again. And if you think about it, they were both really meant as the replacement Doug and Carol. So bringing them back together only makes even more sense. Things are looking good. Keep it up, ER.
Lubasha Visnjic: Pemberley Posted: October 14 2005 Post subject: Oh my. That Abby and Dubanko scene was classic. Too funny. I just enjoy his crush on her. ------------------ PropterSnark Posted: October 14 2005 Post subject: The Abby/Dubenko scene was my favorite on this show in a really, really long time. Still hating Eve. And girlfriend needs to get herself a shirt that's not so "Oh, look, here are my boobs!" ------------- kyriana Posted: October 14 2005 Post subject: Pretty active episode. Everyone had interesting patients. I enjoyed it well enough, but of course Abby and Dubenko were the highlight. It seems that the episode sets the stage for more to come because no one story seemed to come together on its own. A few things seemed mysterious--Kerry vs. Luka wrt the baby for example. ---------- carterfan Posted: October 14 2005 Post subject: I was so glad that Dubenko interrupted the one Luka/Abby conversation in this episode. I am glad that was the only interaction. I liked Luka's interaction with Sam. Eve is not a nice person. I hope she gets put in her place soon. This episode was pretty good. I still miss carter.
Lubasha Visnjic: Christie Moderator Posted: October 14 2005 Post subject: Abby to Dubenko: "Do you want to hop on...er...are you coming?" Oh boy. That whole scene was hilarious! I also loved Weaver's "What the hell happened to King Funshine?" Poor Jerry. He must've been struck by lightening before. I've heard that if you've been struck once, you're more susceptible to being struck again. Does anyone else feel like they're trying to make Morris into sort of a bumbling version of Romano? The kind of character that everyone loves to hate, who makes inappropriate comments and doesn't get along with his coworkers? I feel like that's what they're shooting for, but Morris is definitely no Romano. I felt like there were too many loose ends in this one. What happened to the coma patient? How serious were Jerry's injuries? I would have liked to have delved a little deeper into the mother's story as well...I felt it ended rather abruptly. _________________ 10-14-2005, 04:05 AM anonymous1 - For as much as was in the spoilers about Blaire waking up from her coma, it wasn't really in the storyline. - I liked the Luka/Sam interaction. I like the fact that they are having a mature breakup and are still able to work together. I like Sam standing up for herself toward Eve. Good scenes from both of them. - Jerry in the rain was quite funny. And that demented Care Bear (King Funsmile?) was hilarious. - Maybe this was just me, but if anyone else watches CSI, they might get this. The guy who played Mr. Anderson (the PPD mom's husband) did a guest spot on CSI a few years ago; he played a hepatitis patient with a magic nose who expirated blood all over his apartment. The guy is a good actor, but every time I saw him tonight I kept thinking of that. Highlights: - Jerry in the rain. - Neela pushing for the mom to get some care. - Sam and Luka in the trauma scene, reading each other's requests without words. - Abby and Dubenko's conversation. Lowlights: - For some reason, this one struck me as being a bit flat. Not sure exactly where it went wrong, but it felt like some of the spark was gone. __________________
Lubasha Visnjic: 10-14-2005, 05:38 PM JohnAndKem4Ever HIGHS (IMO) Kerry has a meaningful role in the ER. We saw almost every character in the ER family, with the exception of Pratt and Chuny. Dubenko’s illness was discussed and its probably not life-threatening (on ER you never know though) - just personally embarrassing. For the first time in a long time, Luka looked closer to Goran’s real life age of 33. Usually, I think that he looks more like a 38 or 39 year old, but this week he looked rather young in many shots LOWS (IMO) Didn’t find the penile, prostate, may never be able to have sex again conversation between Dubenko and Abby to be very convincing or funny. I think that with different actors and in a different setting that it could have been funny, but last night it just seemed weird and pathetic. Female sex therapist (aka high-class call girl) propositioning Abby. Abby’s hair. I have been silent about the bangs since the beginning of the season. However, in last night’s episode they just really got to me for some reason. Their fullness and height remind me of the hair pieces that Jessica Simpson favors, and Tierney is constantly pushing the hair out of face like it annoys her. Worse yet, the “next on ER” previews shows us that Abby will be in full Jessica Simpson mode later in the season, with extensions down to her chest.
Lubasha Visnjic: 10-14-2005, 09:52 PM SpySyd Ups -Sam,as a nurse and with Luka.She was nicer.I even liked her. -Neela,as usual.She's becoming a great doc. -Abby.Really nice with Dubenko even though the situation was so hard (no pun intended,lol) to handle. Downs -Eve...weird girl. -Not enough Ray -A bit slow.I miss the fast pace.
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